[SHARK1264]

I got to shoot the scar today. It I'm a little torn on in. I think my acr feels closer to the ar-15. But the scar has resiptating charging handle that gives it weird feel when cycling. Anybody else had any range time with both these plateforms. what do you think of them?

 

[cjt50]

I own both, they are both great rifles and both are fun to shoot. The SCAR may be alittle more refined since uncle sammy dumped some cash to help refine it. It has also been out longer and has gone thru several revisions, giving you what you see today. The ACR is on it first revision still. It is being improved as it's field tested buy us 1st buyers. Will it be refined as the SCAR one day, absolutely.

There are things I like and dislike about both platforms, no deal breakers with either one yet. Would I be each one again, you betcha!!

I think it all comes down to what feel comfortable to you. I will say I shoot my ACR 3x's more than my SCAR.

 

[SHARK1264]

on the SCAR do you get alot of heat in the hand guard area more then in the ACR. i noticed this but it might be due to me being use to shooting with fore grip. we are going after work to pit these bad boys together.

 

[cjt50]

on the SCAR do you get alot of heat in the hand guard area more then in the ACR. i noticed this but it might be due to me being use to shooting with fore grip. we are going after work to pit these bad boys together.

The SCAR heats up faster due to the slim profile barrel, but when it's all said an done, they are about the same at the end of a range session.

 

[BushyAR15]

I just acquired a SCAR 16. I'm anxious to try them both side-by-side. Unfortunately, bad weather is headed this way. So, its not going to be this weekend...

 

[Quinn]

scar is much lighter, felt akward to hold

 

[bomjoon]

only point the SCAR has over ACR to me is the weight.
SCAR felt like a walmart toy.
too plastic like.

 

[mike1100]

I recently bought an ACR, only after also considering the SCAR and SIG556. Eventually I may go and get a SCAR .308

The overall concept, which has yet to be made available, of the ACR is what sold me. I really hope Remington/Bushmaster sees the concept thorugh, including a 7.62x39 lower that will accept AK mags.

I believe the SCAR is a fantastic rifle. I hope both do very well in the market.

 

[BushyAR15]

I finally got to the range with my ACR, SCAR 16, and SCAR 17.

For me there are only subtle differences between the ACR and the SCAR 16. As noted everywhere, the ACR is heavier. Noticably so when you are running around with. The big plus on the SCAR was how the recoil was more of a push rearward. It seemed shot after shot, it stayed on target where as my ACR would slightly rise and move left.

The couple things I didn't like about the SCAR was that it was sensitive to cartridge OAL. If the cartridge was slightly longer than the 2.260 like 2.263+ it would fail to feed. Where as the ACR would eat anything. The other thing I didn't like about the SCAR was it was magazine "picky". It didn't like Thermold mags, and Pmags, are a tight fit.

In a nutshell if I had to bug out with one of them, it'd be the ACR. It was more reliable and would eat anything in any AR mag. There is no deal breaker between the two...

The one thing, I used the Vortex SPARC on the SCAR. I have no real complaints with it. The one nit is when shooting using the iron sights and looking through the SPARC, it would come on. I guess the shock would activate it. So, I had to keep an eye on it to make sure I turned it off.

 

[Agent.PYLE]

Tell me Bushy, are tne ACR & SCAR 16 stock, and if so the ACR has a flashider and the SCAR has a muzzle brake. thats why one pushes staight back and the other rises.

 

[BushyAR15]

Correct on both counts. They are both stock and one is a flash hider vs. muzzle break. I'm considering switching my ACR to the PWS muzzle break. I'm not too concerned at this time about hiding the flash...

 

[cjt50]

The PWS muzzle break on the SCAR is very effective holding the muzzle down, but bless it, it a LOUD beast. Shooting outdoors undercover I need double hearing protection to make it bearable. Not very good at hiding flash though. I was thinking about replace it with one of these:

http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=251&idcategory=6


ETA: Was trying to post picture, couldn't get it to work,,,,,

 

[RufusAZ]

I've been going back and forth on muzzle devise that adds a bit more break to it. I've been leaning towards the PWS FSC556 but then you hear all those stories... It comes on the SCAR, so how bad can it actually be? Wish I could find a place to try both.

 

[cjt50]

Please don't get me wrong, the FSC556 is very effective at holding the muzzle down. But the side effect of all muzzle breaks is the gases are directed to the rear and side, (thats how they work) I just choose to live with the minimal recoil that a semi-auto 223 rifle produces and be a friendly neighbor to my follow shooters on the line. (I shoot mostly at an indoor range.)

You havent lived until you are off to the side when a barrett 50 pops it's cork. All I can say is holy crap and you learn to stand directly behind the shooter, not off to the side.

 

[SDDuc996]

This was my gun for our 08' deployment. My buddies ended up calling the FSC556 the "Buddyfucker". In tight spaces, or even shooting next to the FSC, you could definitely feel it.
It did a great job though and I only wished you could slip a QDSS over the one I had here.

 

[BoovarBjarki]

This is why sound suppressors should become a standard. Don't know why they aren't since they protect your hearing.

 

[mike1100]

Sadly, our government fails to recognize suppressors as a hearing protection devices.

The same government that thinks barrel shrouds are evil.

Watch the Youtube clip "What's a barrel shroud?" if you haven't before. Loads of blood pressure rising fun.

(link added)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo

 

[bigdog2003_99]

now Francis that doesnt look like my old 416 upper..... jk, nice rifle though!

in ohio suppressors are considered weapons for some stupid reason, i guess you could hit someone with it if you wanted to... so no ccw with a can on i guess

my acr has zero recoil w/o the suppressor but with it, it hops some-the brake does wonders, but is every bit of a blue falcon

 

[BoovarBjarki]

Sadly, our government fails to recognize suppressors as a hearing protection devices.

The same government that thinks barrel shrouds are evil.

Watch the Youtube clip "What's a barrel shroud?" if you haven't before. Loads of blood pressure rising fun.

(link added)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo

Lamer than lame!

 

[Tackleberry23]

I finally got to the range with my ACR, SCAR 16, and SCAR 17.

For me there are only subtle differences between the ACR and the SCAR 16. As noted everywhere, the ACR is heavier. Noticably so when you are running around with. The big plus on the SCAR was how the recoil was more of a push rearward. It seemed shot after shot, it stayed on target where as my ACR would slightly rise and move left.

The couple things I didn't like about the SCAR was that it was sensitive to cartridge OAL. If the cartridge was slightly longer than the 2.260 like 2.263+ it would fail to feed. Where as the ACR would eat anything. The other thing I didn't like about the SCAR was it was magazine "picky". It didn't like Thermold mags, and Pmags, are a tight fit.

In a nutshell if I had to bug out with one of them, it'd be the ACR. It was more reliable and would eat anything in any AR mag. There is no deal breaker between the two...

The one thing, I used the Vortex SPARC on the SCAR. I have no real complaints with it. The one nit is when shooting using the iron sights and looking through the SPARC, it would come on. I guess the shock would activate it. So, I had to keep an eye on it to make sure I turned it off.

I put a PWS brake on my ACR, so it gives me the same level of function in follow up shots.