Release of additional ACR barrels??
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Ahhhhhh, the golden question.
No official word from BFI when and which are going to be released. Speculation from folks that attended the shot show is the 6.8 is in testing with the 7.62x39 to follow. With that said, it appears that one shop is making barrels for the freedom group now. Basically if the military side of the house needs barrels, then everyone else waits until thats done. Again, that is stuff that is being passed on by folks that went to the shotshow and spoke with the freedom group people. (DPMS, AAC, Bushmaster, etc.)
Bottom line, no one knows, not even bushmaster. Sorry that a more definitive answer isn't forth comming.
No official word from BFI when and which are going to be released. Speculation from folks that attended the shot show is the 6.8 is in testing with the 7.62x39 to follow. With that said, it appears that one shop is making barrels for the freedom group now. Basically if the military side of the house needs barrels, then everyone else waits until thats done. Again, that is stuff that is being passed on by folks that went to the shotshow and spoke with the freedom group people. (DPMS, AAC, Bushmaster, etc.)
Bottom line, no one knows, not even bushmaster. Sorry that a more definitive answer isn't forth comming.
Last week I got the CLEO sign off on two supressors, one in 5.56 and one in 7.62, so it will be a couple more months before ATF&E sends the final OK.
I would love to (S)hort (B)arrel (R)ifle my ACR. It would be too bad if I have to buy another ACR to accomplish this but I am in the same position with my SCARs too: I do not want to destroy the original barrels!
Waiting, waiting and waiting!
I would love to (S)hort (B)arrel (R)ifle my ACR. It would be too bad if I have to buy another ACR to accomplish this but I am in the same position with my SCARs too: I do not want to destroy the original barrels!
Waiting, waiting and waiting!
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^you could do a spikes tactical 12.5, it uses all of the original gas piston parts unmodified, it seriously takes about 30 seconds to completely disassemble the barrel and maybe 1 minute to put it all back together
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is the 6.8 coming in smaller barrels lengths too?
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5.56 is the most common config for semi autos out there right now. It does not make economical sense for BM/Rem to release caliber conversion kits for the rifle until a certain number of ACRs are sold to support the building and stock supply of said calibers.
You want caliber kits, start convincing more and more people to buy the ACR. You can start buy getting people to come here and talk about the rifle. Go to other forums and mention the ACRForum anytime someone shows an interest in the platform.
The number of accessories for the AR are tremendous because of the popularity. Companies like Geissele are making triggers specifically designed for the ACR, I think Spike's Tactical is making SBR barrels, etc. So there are companies out there seeing a market. But caliber kits are a whole other consideration.
You want caliber kits, start convincing more and more people to buy the ACR. You can start buy getting people to come here and talk about the rifle. Go to other forums and mention the ACRForum anytime someone shows an interest in the platform.
The number of accessories for the AR are tremendous because of the popularity. Companies like Geissele are making triggers specifically designed for the ACR, I think Spike's Tactical is making SBR barrels, etc. So there are companies out there seeing a market. But caliber kits are a whole other consideration.
Which came first? The chicken or the egg: the conversion kits or the popularity?
I understand what you are saying and I think BM is tied down with a plant closure and teething problems with the new ACR.
This is what I hope is what responsible the delay of caliber kits.
I have read posts of people here saying they are waiting to see if the caliber kits are really coming. Some say they bought their rifles because of the "multi-cal" promise which is stamped on the bolt. Some say they will wait and buy only if multi- cal come to be and others say they will dump their ACR if multi-cal doe not come to be.
Me, I'm keeping it regardless but I think at least one multi-cal kit would boost sales and popularity the fastest.
Time, as in most things, will tell.
Good shooting to all!
I understand what you are saying and I think BM is tied down with a plant closure and teething problems with the new ACR.
This is what I hope is what responsible the delay of caliber kits.
I have read posts of people here saying they are waiting to see if the caliber kits are really coming. Some say they bought their rifles because of the "multi-cal" promise which is stamped on the bolt. Some say they will wait and buy only if multi- cal come to be and others say they will dump their ACR if multi-cal doe not come to be.
Me, I'm keeping it regardless but I think at least one multi-cal kit would boost sales and popularity the fastest.
Time, as in most things, will tell.
Good shooting to all!
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...i don't think its the popularity that's hurting the ACR...it has been popular... i think its all bushmaster and its business sense...if i was a business and saw what has been going on, would i invest money to create accessories when i never know what BM could do tomorrow?...same if i was a possible acr buyer...the proof is in your suggestion people should convince more people to buy ACRs...it should be the quality of the product and the trust in a company that does that...not some consumer crusade...seems like they're in their own world right now...and if they made the damn barrels, i bet you my ACR they would have no trouble selling those things...id buy any one they had, period...and i think anyone with an acr would do the same, because that's what an ACR IS...and why most people bought it because its ADAPTIVE...not a scar knock-off...which is what it would be if it stayed 5.56...IMO...
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I was doing extensive web searching for ACR caliber kits and got so frustrated I decided to email Bushmaster. I asked if they knew when we would get caliber kits for our beloved "Multi-Caliber" rifle. I even tried to push the 300BLK being it would be the easiest to covert. I have written emails before where it would take 2 weeks or not all for the company to reply to my email. It literally took 8 minutes! Here is the response I got from Bushmaster!
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Also, I challenged them to have a representative join the forum! I wrote... If one of your representatives would create an account it would make a lot of people happy. To have communication with the manufacturer on the outcome of their beloved rifle would be a wonderful thing.
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Ok, after a long discussion and having to explain the Bushy sales rep the difference between AK and AR mags, according to him the 7.62x39 kit coming this summer will use the same lower as the current ACR. Meaning you will not be able to use AK style magazines. I really hope this is not true but fear that it is. Even the Masada concept had an AK lower! I really don't want to use crappy AR style 7.62x39 magazines! But with the nature of the beast I'll take what I can get.
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From Harvey Macomber at Bushmaster regarding parts availability (Lower, Bolt Assembly, Barrel/Piston Assembly) for the ACR:
"Check back mid 2011."
Harvey Macomber | Sales/Customer Service
Bushmaster Firearms International, LLC.
At least they're coming...
"Check back mid 2011."
Harvey Macomber | Sales/Customer Service
Bushmaster Firearms International, LLC.
At least they're coming...
As far as the BM reps go, I would have to think that at this point there probably isn't going to be much motivation or excitement on their part to spill there guts about release dates and the like, when some or all of them may already know that they will definitely be getting the axe soon. I mean seriously....how motivated would you be to do your job if you knew your days were numbered? I know I would'nt be. I'm actually quite surprised, that one of the reps (Harvey) bothered to say any anything at all..... maybe he's not one of the unlucky ones.
they were told three months ago who wouldn't have a job by March, even the gunsmiths are gone, the assist ACR Product I have spoken to before is gone... it's sad
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it would be nice if the new barrels didn't have the M203 notch on them since they serve no purpose on this weapon. Additionally, has there been any word or 3rd party experimentation on medium or heavy barrels?
It's funny, my former employers did the "you did a good job today, we'll likely fire you tomorrow" routine for 8 months. During that time they came to me and stated that my performance decreasing. I explained my reasoning and it was apparently my fault that I took their "there is no guarantee you will have a job soon" as a negative. I'm no longer employed but I'm glad I'm gone.
it would be nice if the new barrels didn't have the M203 notch on them since they serve no purpose on this weapon. Additionally, has there been any word or 3rd party experimentation on medium or heavy barrels?
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It's funny, my former employers did the "you did a good job today, we'll likely fire you tomorrow" routine for 8 months. During that time they came to me and stated that my performance decreasing. I explained my reasoning and it was apparently my fault that I took their "there is no guarantee you will have a job soon" as a negative. I'm no longer employed but I'm glad I'm gone.
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If the gunsmiths are gone, who is repairing all the ACRs that people have been sending back for various issues???
I'm just repeating what I was told by a Service Tech at Bushmaster. I personally don't think Gunsmith were doing the updates, but I could be wrong. Bushmaster had three Gunsmiths.
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