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Let's cover our Weapons Safety Rules:
(1) Treat every weapon as if it were loaded
(2) Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot
(3) KEEP YOUR FINGER STRAIGHT AND OFF OF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU INTEND TO FIRE
(4) Keep the weapon on safe until you intend to fire
(5) Know your target and what lies beyond it
(1) Treat every weapon as if it were loaded
(2) Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot
(3) KEEP YOUR FINGER STRAIGHT AND OFF OF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU INTEND TO FIRE
(4) Keep the weapon on safe until you intend to fire
(5) Know your target and what lies beyond it
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You know I do not own a 1911, but I have used them more often than I care to remember in the .mil. I always did wonder about a 1911 style safety used in conjunction with the 5.11 thumbdrive holster. I always thought it would be too close to the safety. But regardless of safety position, he trigger finger was in the wrong place.
My preferred holster style for CC is a leather style that the belt is fed through which creates more than enough tension. I also own a Glock where safety issues such as the one in the video above are never a concern. However, I would argue that the guy could have done the same thing with any gun. The safety was not really the issue. Complacency was along with the placement of his finger.
my $.02
My preferred holster style for CC is a leather style that the belt is fed through which creates more than enough tension. I also own a Glock where safety issues such as the one in the video above are never a concern. However, I would argue that the guy could have done the same thing with any gun. The safety was not really the issue. Complacency was along with the placement of his finger.
my $.02
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Yeah, your best safety is your own discipline. Know how your gear will interact with your weapon, and plan accordingly. I've got a lieutenant that harps on me for my Glock love. He says they're unsafe. He sent me a story of an accidental discharge. It was the result of an old worn out leather holster that weakened itself into the trigger guard. I use kydex (or at least a hybrid). When I draw and re-holster, I have trained myself to sweep away clothing and such with my thumb. I always index my trigger finger on the slide.
That said, I agree with HighDrag. Props to the guy to swallow his embarrassment and learn from his error and share this video. It's an important lesson.
That said, I agree with HighDrag. Props to the guy to swallow his embarrassment and learn from his error and share this video. It's an important lesson.
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I'm no fan of any holster system that has the release via the trigger finger. All of mine use thumb breaks so I can keep my ham-like indexer well away from the trigger while drawing. I did notice that the holster for my FNP45 likes to disengage the safety though...
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His is a thumb release. I've never used one of those, but I have and love Blackhawk SERPA holsters. If anything, I think they force my trigger finger to point out straight rather than on trigger.
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I just got a serpa thigh holster for my m9. Im glad I made a good choice. I like it. Keeps my finger off the trigger then along the guard naturally. I don't personally own a pistol and wouldn't attempt such a drill till I was comfortable doing it without ammunition. Basically I wouldn't do anything with my weapon on deployment I wasn't sure of. No red status in a vehicle or while I would be in a situation where mo ement could switch my selector lever etc. The carrier of the weapon is the ultimate controller of what comes out of the muzzle.if you can't concentrate on that. Don't have a round chambered was my practice. Fortunatly I had people pull security around me to allow me to do my mission. Should we take fire I could take cover and chamber a round. Like tommy said. Basic firearm rules. I dont imagine the guy in he vid takes a pay cut for the nd like those in the military do.
If the fear of a ND isn't enough for you, then how about being immortalized in a music video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTGmTrQXrwg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTGmTrQXrwg
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Wow just got around to watching it, all I have to say is that sucks. Just a reminder, you can never be to careful.
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While I know and live by all the rules of gun safety, with my Glock 23 I only really have to abide by one: Keep your freaking finger off the freaking trigger until you are freaking ready to freaking fire. No buttons, switches, latches, grips or magic words needed. And none of the aforementioned devices to falsely rely on to keep your own rounds out of your own body.
This guy escaped the fate of Darwin, but only by a few inches.
This guy escaped the fate of Darwin, but only by a few inches.
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