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So about a week ago me and a buddy of mine took my ACR and his SCAR 16 to the range. Long story short....the ACR won....I will explain.

After having zeroed the SCAR we decided to get them a little dirty, we both detached our slings from the front point and left the rear attached. Holding the loose end of the sling tossed them out into the muddy retention pond.



I wish I had taken the time to document this more but hindsight is 20/20

Anyway, after getting them out of the water we shot them....the ACR won in that it downed 60 rounds with no failures. The SCAR on the other hand failed to cycle, it would fire one round and then you would have to manually cycle the bolt. It took field striping the rifle and rinsing all the mud out to get it running somewhat....it would still fail to cycle about 60-70% of the time.

My friend is now getting ready to sell his SCAR and get an ACR

Unfortunately due to this test I did go ahead and clean the hell out of the ACR, round count before cleaning was at about 2300
I'm also including some slow motion videos from a few weeks ago











 

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...OH somebodies going to hate this...hahahhaa....i admire your badassness...that kind of bravado would cost me a case and a pack of smokes...and maybe a few tears....awesome
 

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Thanks for sharing!!

Gotta admit that I could never do what you guys did. (makes me shiver to the core :) )
 

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...OH somebodies going to hate this...hahahhaa....i admire your badassness...that kind of bravado would cost me a case and a pack of smokes...and maybe a few tears....awesome
they already locked a thread on m4c about this... lol

sweet test though
 

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Very nice. This type of thread is great for the future of our weapon system. We all know this rifle can do this, but potential buyers like to see real world tests. Great pictures by the way.
 

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That's awesome. There was another thread where a guy abused the hell out of an ACR but had no SCAR to test side by side. This is great. Thanks.
 

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There are a whole bunch of yahoos out there who want to see the ACR fail----the kind of test we have here is going to fill a lot of big mouths with bitter gall.
Well done.
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Im so tired of the trash talking when it comes to the acr. I own many ar rifles. A black acr and scar, both of these guns are better than any ar i have shot to date, including my lwrc. I love shooting the scar, its a great gun but the acr is a all around better gun in my opinion. check out current issue of tactical operator magazine, they also rated the acr as top dog. I would and probably buy another acr for my son. I would not buy another scar 16. Scar 17s, now thats another story.
 

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i have to agree with you, the acr vs scar debate is old, most of them probably havnt even shot an acr... they are both good weapons its like imports vs domestics, it will never end

but the scar 17s is different territory, if there was a massoud it would be a different story
 

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That was my SCAR and it was pretty jamtastic, I love how the fanboys on M4Carbine were sooo buthurt that the SCAR failed to measure up to the ACR in a real world test. I dont care about lab testing or Mil trial results when my rifle fails to function when it gets dirt on it, the end result is and was the same, the rifle choked, I am just happy it was at the range:tinhat: This is the last time I use Mil trials as any kind of indicator of a weapon's worth.



So about a week ago me and a buddy of mine took my ACR and his SCAR 16 to the range. Long story short....the ACR won....I will explain.

After having zeroed the SCAR we decided to get them a little dirty, we both detached our slings from the front point and left the rear attached. Holding the loose end of the sling tossed them out into the muddy retention pond.



I wish I had taken the time to document this more but hindsight is 20/20

Anyway, after getting them out of the water we shot them....the ACR won in that it downed 60 rounds with no failures. The SCAR on the other hand failed to cycle, it would fire one round and then you would have to manually cycle the bolt. It took field striping the rifle and rinsing all the mud out to get it running somewhat....it would still fail to cycle about 60-70% of the time.

My friend is now getting ready to sell his SCAR and get an ACR

Unfortunately due to this test I did go ahead and clean the hell out of the ACR, round count before cleaning was at about 2300
I'm also including some slow motion videos from a few weeks ago











 

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wanna sell me your SCAR? I give you $500 for it.:p
 

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you sold it already?
 

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i have to agree with you, the acr vs scar debate is old, most of them probably havnt even shot an acr... they are both good weapons its like imports vs domestics, it will never end

but the scar 17s is different territory, if there was a massoud it would be a different story
Regret selling your 416 upper to me yet?

100% agree with the Massoud. Especially since it'll utilize the PMag instead of a more expensive proprietary mag.
 

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lol i miss it sometimes, i saw on hkpro that you were getting that vltor rail for it-i really want to see how it looks. you still gonna get an acr?? i really like mine alot, especially now that it is sbr'd
 

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I'd like to get the Vlotr since DD bailed on it.

I'd also like an ACR very much and am excited that there are people out there already mfg'ing aftermarket parts for it. I bet in no time you'll start seeing more desirable fore-end rails for it too.

I'll say my buddy's SCAR Heavy is pretty nice and balances superbly. I believe a .308 Massoud ACR would be even better though.

Speaking of which, I found out alot of our terps HATED that guy. Seems Massoud did jack squat for the Pashtun people and the only people that did benefit are the ones from his hometown in the Panshir Valley.
 
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