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I dont think a weapon caused so much of a commotion as the first GLOCK did.​
 

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I voted the 1911. I don't know much about those posted. Is design hasn't really changed in one hundred years. Innovative of its time. Probably not the right one to pick but for a get it right the first time thing. Innovation wasn't needed time after time. I could of picked other. But the possibilities are endless.
 

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There are alot of possible candidates,but i chose the most wellknown,and also included other for just that reason.:)
 

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The rifle in with the curved barrel was something. They were used in the tanks to fight off enemies running up. Saw it at the ordinance museum but who would know what im talking about. Plus who. Doesn't love the 1911. I think the other column will be a popular one. Innovation is what drives the firearms industry.
 

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Wow, how far are we going back here? I'm very much a modern firearms guy, and I love the Glock. It took over the law enforcement market in 8-12 years, and it was the first well-produced use of polymer in firearms, which is so commonly used today. But I think it misses the mark for "most revolutionary."

I'd have to say the AK47. It's the gun that changed the world so many times you can't keep track. It has seen battle in probably every major conflict in the last 40 years (approximate). Its ease of use and limited maintenance has been attractive to governments and revolutionaries alike to bring changes in the global structure.

That being said, I don't own an AK. I feel the stigma that they carry because it's the ultimate "bad guy" gun. That revolutionary isn't always struggling for equality or peace. Sometimes, he's just looking for power and money. The ease of use and maintenance is great, but the makes it look easy to turn a kindergartner into a rebel fighter. Nevertheless, that's gotta be my pick.
 

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I went with other. I don't know if the Garand was the most innovative firearm, but I think it deserves to be on this list as it was the first semi-automatic rifle to adopted as the standard rifle of an Army.
 

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Wow, how far are we going back here? I'm very much a modern firearms guy, and I love the Glock. It took over the law enforcement market in 8-12 years, and it was the first well-produced use of polymer in firearms, which is so commonly used today. But I think it misses the mark for "most revolutionary."

I'd have to say the AK47. It's the gun that changed the world so many times you can't keep track. It has seen battle in probably every major conflict in the last 40 years (approximate). Its ease of use and limited maintenance has been attractive to governments and revolutionaries alike to bring changes in the global structure.

That being said, I don't own an AK. I feel the stigma that they carry because it's the ultimate "bad guy" gun. That revolutionary isn't always struggling for equality or peace. Sometimes, he's just looking for power and money. The ease of use and maintenance is great, but the makes it look easy to turn a kindergartner into a rebel fighter. Nevertheless, that's gotta be my pick.

you forgot to cast your vote:confused:
 

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Is this what you meant when you put strum .44 {Sturmgewehr 44} if so that would be my choice. it is the grandfather of the modern rifle.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assault_rifles :D
DefinitionThe term assault rifle is a translation of the German word Sturmgewehr (literally "storm rifle", as in "to storm a position"). The name was coined by Adolf Hitler[SUP][6][/SUP] to describe the Maschinenpistole 43, subsequently re-named Sturmgewehr 44, the firearm generally considered the first assault rifle that served to popularise the concept and form the basis for today's modern assault rifles.
The translation assault rifle gradually became the common term for similar firearms sharing the same technical definition as the StG 44. In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP]
  • It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
  • It must be capable of selective fire;
  • It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
  • Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable magazine.
  • And it should at least have a firing range of 300 meters (984 feet)
Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles despite frequently being considered as such. For example, semi-automatic-only rifles like the AR-15 (which the M16 rifle is based on) that share designs with assault rifles are not assault rifles, as they are not capable of switching to automatic fire and thus are not selective fire capable. Belt-fed weapons (such as the M249 SAW) or rifles with fixed magazines are likewise not assault rifles because they do not have detachable box magazines. However, in this case, the M249 SAW has the ability for both being fed by belt or detachable box magazine.
The term "assault rifle" is often more loosely used for commercial or political reasons to include other types of arms, particularly arms that fall under a strict definition of the battle rifle, or semi-automatic variant of military rifles such as AR-15s.
The US Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges."[SUP][10][/SUP]
[edit] Assault rifles vs. "Assault weapons"The term assault weapon is a United States political and legal term used to describe a variety of semi-automatic firearms that have certain features generally associated with military assault rifles. The 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which expired on September 13, 2004, codified the definition of an assault weapon. It defined the rifle type of assault weapon as a semiautomatic firearm with the ability to accept a detachable magazine containing more than 10 rounds, and two or more of the following:
The assault weapons ban did not restrict weapons capable of fully automatic fire, such as assault rifles and machine guns, which have been continuously and heavily regulated since the National Firearms Act of 1934 was passed. Subsequent laws such as the Gun Control Act of 1968 and the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 also affected the importation and civilian ownership of fully automatic firearms, the latter fully prohibiting sales of newly manufactured machine guns to non-law enforcement or SOT (special occupational taxpayer) dealers.
 

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For pistols, I have to say the Browning Hi-power / m1911. Almost every modern semi auto uses the tilting barrel design to lock up the action. More so the Hi-power linkless design.

For Rifles, the Stg44/45. It is the granddad to all post WWII military small arms in concept.
 

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no prob..........
 

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Is this what you meant when you put strum .44 {Sturmgewehr 44} if so that would be my choice. it is the grandfather of the modern rifle.
This. Although I didn't recognize the name so I had selected "other" :rolleyes:. It was one of a multitude of innovations the Germans came up with that are still being employed in some way to this day. The AK is a refined, reverse-engineered version of it, with a focus on improved tolerances.
 

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If the question is what is most widely used/ killed the most people the AK47 would win hands down. but most innovative it is NOT.
 

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This. Although I didn't recognize the name so I had selected "other" :rolleyes:. It was one of a multitude of innovations the Germans came up with that are still being employed in some way to this day. The AK is a refined, reverse-engineered version of it, with a focus on improved tolerances.

BBAAAHHHHHHHHH you blew it hahahaha!!!:)
 

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Ok there's been enough serious replys its time to ask. What about he orgasmarator from orgazmo. I may be one of the several dozen that have seen that movie. Very innovative.
 

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If the question is what is most widely used/ killed the most people the AK47 would win hands down. but most innovative it is NOT.
I see where you're coming from.

However key weapons like the dragunov, saiga 12 & 308, seem to derive from that design.
 
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