[kjsl105]

I have used lasers on my handguns for years but have never had one omunted on a carbine because it just didn't seem necessary. Well with the stock folded on the ACR, the hold feels similiar to that of a pistol grip shotgun. The POA is something that one would have to get used to and undertand their hold in relation to POA/ POI.

Over the weekend I acquired a Lasermax Unimax Green Laser in a trade and tried it out on the ACR with the stock folded. With it weighing in at a mere ounce, it didn't add much of anything. Also because it is a "stackable" system I can mount the Scout right over it, so as not to give up anymore rail space.

I have to say, that flashing green dot is pretty nice.

I'll post pictures later.


Has anyone else had any experiences mounting non IR lasers to their carbines?

 

[acrwill]

good to know ive never been a fan of lasers but there starting to grow on me!

 

[USMCfor20]

I have no experience with a laser on a carbine. I look forward to seeing your pictures.

 

[Warpdrv]

Interesting, seems the reviews for this unit is kinda all over the map with the Customer Service being great, but battery life is not the greatest and batteries are expensive...

Also gotta keep an eye on the switch doesn't get triggered during transport....

Other then that - everyone seems to like its performance.... I'd be interested if it weren't for the cons... perhaps they will upgrade them in the future, as it would be nice to have something like this on my ACR.

 

[kjsl105]

Yeah the Green laser is much brighter and visible because our eyes seem to pick it up much faster, but battery life is effected.

I couldn't agree more about having to be aware of the controls when transporting or even holding. The unit is triggered by a slide switch that moves from left to right and is turned off by the push in the opposite direction. How I have it mounted (Side rail, Strong Side, Under the Surefire Scout) offers protection against unintentional activation when running the weapon under regular conditions. When I'm shooting reaction side, I have to be careful not to hit the switch when mounting my right hand forward (the AFG makes the possibility of an accidental hit higher). But with a little muscle memory it's no problem. Lasermax also offers a tape switch for about $50-$60, but having two different pressure pads on the the weapon just seems like a bit much.

My Surefire SR02 switch should be here Friday, and will help adjust a few things. I'll have pictures up soon after to provide a better visual.

 

[goteron]

The Lasermax units are not built to combat spec in my opinion. I have taken apart 40+ of them to convert to IR. They are fine for plinking, I would however never suggest them for life saving use

 

[USMCfor20]

The Lasermax units are not built to combat spec in my opinion. I have taken apart 40+ of them to convert to IR. They are fine for plinking, I would however never suggest them for life saving use

What IR Laser are you putting in there? Can you provide details of how it is done?

 

[goteron]

As I have done the service for profit, I cannot put directions out there as it would be a disservice to those that bought them. I would happily convert one for you however. Or whoever is interestd. I prefer to do them in batches.

 

[USMCfor20]

What is the going rate?

 

[goteron]

$400 shipped to you. I only supply new units, no existing unit conversions. Turn around time is 2 Weeks.

Obviously I assume no liability for any use or misuse thereof. Lasermax warranty is voided. My warranty is for 30 days. But im an honest guy, if your laser burns out in 300 hours, Ill replace it unless you have just beat the heck out of it.

These are 5mw lasers, not the new weak class.

 

[kjsl105]

The Lasermax units are not built to combat spec in my opinion. I have taken apart 40+ of them to convert to IR. They are fine for plinking, I would however never suggest them for life saving use

I have had mixed experience with lasermax as well. Agreed in that the inexpensive products they put out are not something that I'd bet my life on but their higher end units seem to much more reliable. Certain rail mounted and internal pistol lasers are actually quite nice (You get what you pay for). Also seeing as how I'm only using it for 7-10 yrds, it more than serves it's purpose.

You are asking a very reasonable price for the conversion. Would you mind sharing a few photos of your work?

 

[goteron]

You can head over to here and see the feedback

http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=58470

 

[kjsl105]

Hey this looks fantastic!
Even without the IR illuminator, they come out pretty bright.
If I ever decided to pick up some NVGs I'll be giving you a call.

You offer a full unit for $400 shipped?

 

[kjsl105]

Over the weekend I acquired a Lasermax Unimax Green Laser in a trade and tried it out on the ACR with the stock folded. With it weighing in at a mere ounce, it didn't add much of anything. Also because it is a "stackable" system I can mount the Scout right over it, so as not to give up anymore rail space.

Setup

Surefire M600A

Lasermax Unimax

 

[goteron]

I cannot even begin to tell you how much i would suggest agaisnt that setup. For two reasons, the most important being that if you snag your light on a doorway or other object you will rip the laser off the rail very easily. Their clamping system is very poor. If you don't completely rip it off, your zero will still be severely affected. Second is control access. If you want to use the pressure pad at 12oclock I would suggest moving the front sight behind the pressure pad (sight radius won't matter enough to bother you) and mount the laser where the front sight is. This will give you solid light mounting, a stable platform for laser zero and better access to the switch since your pressure pad is there anyway. Not knocking you at all, just know from experience how poorly their rail interface is designed.

 

[kjsl105]

Probably not too worried about snagging, but it's a good point to be sure that it'll handle the worst case scenario. I just ordered up a rail riser to mount the light directly to a more reliable foundation, and a DD offset rail mount for the laser to sit in between the front sight and light. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[DSM]

Hmm, I gotta admit the idea of a small IR laser is sounding pretty tempting. Don't have much experience with the Lasermax gear though.

 

[goteron]

Kj, thats a good solution, Why the rail riser for the light?

 

[kjsl105]

Her Goteron,

It's two fold:

First, I chose to use an offest mount for the laser so I can keep as forward a grip as possible. (due to the charging handle, I'd rather not moving the site and pressure switch back). This really helps with weight management. The riser assures that the light will clear the offset mount that'll sit just in front of it.

Second, when holding reaction side, the riser allows for better purchase of my right hand without having to maneuvor it around or over the light. It will protrude in between my thumb and index finger.

All the parts should be arriving early next week, I'll have pictures up soon after.

 

[NavyWings]

The Lasermax units are not built to combat spec in my opinion. I have taken apart 40+ of them to convert to IR. They are fine for plinking, I would however never suggest them for life saving use

I tend to agree. The LMS-UNI-GW (weatherized version of the G) supposedly beefed up the battery compartment over complaints. For a $350 laser system, I'd expect it to be very durable AND have a great battery life. Heard the battery lasts about 40 minutes. I just ordered a BTMK-10 from Z-Bolt (http://z-bolt-laser-systems.com/btmk-10.html) built to MILSPEC and supplied to military. Total cost less than the LMS-UNI-GW.