[Tackleberry23]

I've been looking into buying my next round of ammo. Now, I generally shoot Federal Premium or American Eagle Tactical XM193. Always 55 grain. I recently had a bad experience with some steel crap from Cabelas. I was looking around and found some reasonable deals on surplus Lake City M855 62g Green Tip rds. in 5.56mm. I haven't ever used 62g or Lake City, and I've only used .223 in my ACR so far.

I know that this stuff is Mil Surplus and so its generally good, but I was wondering if anyone has experience with it in their ACR. Also, if there's anything I should know compared to the .223 55g stuff.

Note: My duty mags are loaded up with Hornady TAP .223 55g. I will not zero with this stuff. It's just for range time.

 

[cjt50]

It's the current issue ammo for the military. I believe it's in the process of being supplimented with M855a1 varient. It's good stuff and I have shot a bunch of it thru my ACR. No issues with it at all and it will group well for what it is. I believe milspec requires maximum of 4moa (4inches @ 100 yards) My ACR is about there with the LC855 stuff. I believe Lake City is made by the same group as Federal. (ATK) The zero will be lil' different but not enough to worry about 100 yards and in. Really great blasting stuff for sure.

There are some good deals out there for LC855 right now, (bout .34 - .36 cents a round before shipping) Some even come in ammo cans packed in a bandoler and stripper clips.

 

[Tackleberry23]

Sounds great cjt50. Thanks. I've never gotten the stuff and I wasn't sure if it was anything special with the green tip.

 

[Tommys229]

Ammoman.com

We used the LC 62gr. Holopoints in Afghanistan and they cycled great and held on to target well

 

[Tackleberry23]

Thanks Tommy. That's exactly the site I was looking at. I saw an earlier post where you recommended it for bulk sales.

 

[Tommys229]

the site isn't pretty, but i don't need pretty. i need cheap deals

 

[CAR]

I am interested in hearing from people that are shooting this stuff as well.

I just bought 1260 rounds of 2011 LC mfg. green tip M855. It is on 10 round stripper clips in 30 round brown cardboard sleeves; it comes in 440 round GI ammo cans sealed with a metal seal. The labels on my cans do not have "Not For Duty Use" stamped on them. I opened one can and the ammo I examined looked like good USGI ammo. Unfortunately, I probably won't be able to shoot any until fall due to my work schedule.

 

[Tommys229]

LC gov ammo isnt allowed at some ranges because of the steel core penetrator. it can cause a lot of damage to targets and steel backings and the such

 

[oif0709]

That is some evil stuff. Shot different pieces of metal in iraq to see what it does. Chewed holes in hardened quarter inch and put a mean dent in the 3/8" I had behind it. They were separated about a half inch. I think its tungston in them or something. Real fun to run through that 249.

 

[BoovarBjarki]

I am interested in hearing from people that are shooting this stuff as well.

I just bought 1260 rounds of 2011 LC mfg. green tip M855. It is on 10 round stripper clips in 30 round brown cardboard sleeves; it comes in 440 round GI ammo cans sealed with a metal seal. The labels on my cans do not have "Not For Duty Use" stamped on them. I opened one can and the ammo I examined looked like good USGI ammo. Unfortunately, I probably won't be able to shoot any until fall due to my work schedule.

I just picked up what 2 cans of what you got. It works great with the ACR. Along with other 5.56, so far so good.

 

[CAR]

Thank you. That is reassuring to know.

 

[Tommys229]

the acr loves everything but tula, from my experience. 5.56, .223.

 

[BoovarBjarki]

the acr loves everything but tula, from my experience. 5.56, .223.

Yes, with the revised regulator the need for the H/L reg is obsolete as the new reg/one that comes on all the new ACR's will blast both 5.56 and .223 with ease.

 

[CAR]

I just bought a new ACR enhanced at the end of May, the serial is in the SRR001XX range. Can anyone tell me if it has the new regulator? The regulator is marked S/U.

It does have the titainium firing pin.

 

[cjt50]

I just bought a new ACR enhanced at the end of May, the serial is in the SRR001XX range. Can anyone tell me if it has the new regulator? The regulator is marked S/U.

It does have the titainium firing pin.

SRR is the prefix for the serial number? Thats different, I have only seen BL out in the commercial market. Interesting!!

 

[bigdog2003_99]

I just bought a new ACR enhanced at the end of May, the serial is in the SRR001XX range. Can anyone tell me if it has the new regulator? The regulator is marked S/U.

It does have the titainium firing pin.

any pics of the rifle? i wonder if its one of the new york built rifles that get that serial number

 

[CAR]

SRR is the prefix for the serial number? Thats different, I have only seen BL out in the commercial market. Interesting!!

any pics of the rifle? i wonder if its one of the new york built rifles that get that serial number

I will try to get some pics when I can. The rifle is marked "BFI, WINDHAM, MAINE U.S.A." My rifle does not appear to be any different externally, other than serial prefix, than any of the other the other ACRs that I have seen.

 

[TacticalTom]

The big difference is the 62 gr. has the steel penetrator. Put some targets behind tall grass or a small bush and shoot with 45/55 gr. and you will see that your rounds tumble at very close range. The 62gr. was designed in the Vietnam War for this reason. HUGE difference. As far as shooting it in an ACR, well it will handle it just fine. Other carbines can only handle the .223 and I stay away from those.

 

[oif0709]

The big difference is the 62 gr. has the steel penetrator. Put some targets behind tall grass or a small bush and shoot with 45/55 gr. and you will see that your rounds tumble at very close range. The 62gr. was designed in the Vietnam War for this reason. HUGE difference. As far as shooting it in an ACR, well it will handle it just fine. Other carbines can only handle the .223 and I stay away from those.

that's why I got the acr. I have alot of 5.56 I can't shoot through my .223. The. 223 is great for alot of things. Reloading. Target. Hunting. But its nice to have two different rifles. Those 62 grain penetrators are nice. I wanted a carbine and didn't want to be limited.

 

[DSM]

My $.02, but M855 is what it is, a service ball round. The round was developed by the Belgians back in the day (you'll see it listed as SS109 in some places to this day. The US rounds have green tips because we needed to distinguish them from M193, something the Brits for instance never had to worry about.) and the penetrator was to defeat a specific threat of the old Soviet CRISAT armor their soldiers wore. The round will tumble and shatter on impact and usually breaks at the cannelure to create a couple different wound channels. The folks in Somalia wrote that the folks they were shooting, while not only being hopped on drugs, were too scrawny and they would just punch a little hole in them.

As far as accuracy, if I'm recalling my acceptance standards correctly, to meet spec it has to be something around 4MOA. Not something to write home about but in terms of the average carbine and distances associated this is entirely acceptable. And that's on the far end of the scale, it's usually better than that.

I'm not getting down on this stuff at all because it's good ammo. Something that often gets over looked is the fact it's made for long term storage. Kept properly 20yrs is easy with no degradation. (We had .50 cal ammo loaded in 1945 we shot in the mid 90's that worked just fine. ) The rounds are sealed top and bottom. Good to put up for a rainy day.

Right now Cabelas has this on sale for $150/420rds. That's a few bucks cheaper than comparable Prvi M855. Not a bad deal for good ol' made in the USA ammo. Stock up!