[johnny smithsonian]

...i,ve been experimenting with different sling positions on my ACR...and ya'll know there is no shortage of attachment points...i tried to make my own single/double sling with the blueforce vickers sling by adding a HK hook to one end and mounting an magpul RSA...i had a few problems...one is, with the RSA itself there doesn't seem to be a good place to mount it...it either gets in the way of the charging handle, my AFG, or optics...i tried everything...the only thing that seems doable is mounting a sling mount to the front most attachment point and then placing the HK hook in it...then if i want a single point, detach the hook from the front and attach it to the rear...but thats a lot of hardware/headache...

...with all that said...i was wondering how the rest of you are setting up your slings?...maybe your ideas will help me out...i hope....

 

[bigdog2003_99]

magpul ms2, i totally understand what you mean about stuff getting in the way somehow, when i was trying to set my rifle up i had to buy and sell tons of parts to get it to how i like it, i probably will throw one of the quick disconnect sling loops in my range bag so i can do 2 point if i want to sling it that way, but overall i like the single point, its simple and works great in transitions

 

[cjt50]

Magpul ms2 as a single point at the moment. It works for what I do and has held up. It does beat up the finish of the hook it attaches to.

 

[johnny smithsonian]

man cjt50 i just gave my ms2 to my buddy...i may have to repo it...

 

[johnny smithsonian]

magpul ms2, i totally understand what you mean about stuff getting in the way somehow, when i was trying to set my rifle up i had to buy and sell tons of parts to get it to how i like it, i probably will throw one of the quick disconnect sling loops in my range bag so i can do 2 point if i want to sling it that way, but overall i like the single point, its simple and works great in transitions

...thats a good idea...i didn't think about the quick disconnect...might try to put 2 on each side...hahaa...yea i had the idea in my head...then, like you said, when you actually try to put them on...problems...i'm having the same problem with my womans car...

 

[Tackleberry23]

I put a VTAC padded sling on mine. I've got an HK hook at the rear of the receiver and a QD swivel on the other end into the swivel in front of the mag well (I use a basic handguard). It works well as a kind of happy medium between a single point and a standard two-point setup. I used to have a Blackhawk Single Point sling, but I started disliking that the first time that I attempted to cuff someone who was on the ground. Imagine doing that and hearing the scraping of your muzzle on the ground. It's far enough apart to keep it controllable when not in use, especially with the VTAC or Vickers-type sling which quickly cinches up for a tight hold.

I have however been looking for a way to mount the QD in a different way. In part, it's because, when held out of the way, my current setup still allows for a lot of play when not tightened. But mainly, I just want to get a Viking Tactics mount that has the 45 degree rotation stop. The ACR swivel allows the sling to get all tangled up every time that I pull the rifle from the bag. Still trying to figure on how I will get that to work without getting in the way of the charging handle.

I recently heard a SCAR fan who routinely runs 3-gun tell me that he mounts a VTAC LPSM on the bottom rail. Any thoughts?

 

[johnny smithsonian]

I put a VTAC padded sling on mine. I've got an HK hook at the rear of the receiver and a QD swivel on the other end into the swivel in front of the mag well (I use a basic handguard). It works well as a kind of happy medium between a single point and a standard two-point setup. I used to have a Blackhawk Single Point sling, but I started disliking that the first time that I attempted to cuff someone who was on the ground. Imagine doing that and hearing the scraping of your muzzle on the ground. It's far enough apart to keep it controllable when not in use, especially with the VTAC or Vickers-type sling which quickly cinches up for a tight hold.

I have however been looking for a way to mount the QD in a different way. In part, it's because, when held out of the way, my current setup still allows for a lot of play when not tightened. But mainly, I just want to get a Viking Tactics mount that has the 45 degree rotation stop. The ACR swivel allows the sling to get all tangled up every time that I pull the rifle from the bag. Still trying to figure on how I will get that to work without getting in the way of the charging handle.

I recently heard a SCAR fan who routinely runs 3-gun tell me that he mounts a VTAC LPSM on the bottom rail. Any thoughts?

...i hear you on the tangled up situation...i can see the benefits of single and double...but like you said you can do a whole lot more with a double IMO...having both at the same time as an option would be great...
...i noticed the guys with a basic handguard have just a little more space to place a mount on the top rail, not so much with the enhanced...i think the VTAC LPSM is a good idea man... but if i keep my AFG there's only one notch left on the rail...maybe i could move stuff around a little...i tried a few more variations and most worked well until i tried to transition from right to left..i either got some sling in between the stock and shoulder as i mounted the rifle, or in between my cheek and the stock... i guess that's acceptable...it blows my mind how many attachments the ACR has, but damn...maybe its me...hahaha

 

[goteron]

Made my own forward sling mount for an MS2

 

[cjt50]

Simple, but very effective looking. Did you modify exsisting stuff or fabricate from scratch?

 

[goteron]

From scratch, I've got a mill and lathe. Also made an extended charging handle to clear the peq.

For the mount, just drill two holes, one the size of the bolt, the other the size for your sling. Sand / file round, bend, coat, and done.

 

[cjt50]

When ya got the right tools and know how............

Very nice, thanks for sharing, can you share a picture or two of the charging handle, love to see that too.

 

[goteron]

Know how is lacking!

Check the gallery thread for some pics of my first ACR, here is charging handle...

Top down view with extended handle. Absolutely needed using an MFAL

 

[goteron]

While I'm at it.

Custom 620V light mount and AFG mod

I've lightened and coated the mount since then.

Can you tell I hate rail panels? And stuff hanging off the sides.

 

[goteron]

And battlecomp / SPR /M4 mod

On a different gun:

And lightened and chopped ACR barrel

 

[cjt50]

Know how lacking my eye!!

That is some nice work all around, hellava lot better then I could do even with the right tools. Very nice and thanks for the pictures.

 

[goteron]

Well thanks, need to make the weapon system work for me. 3,500 rounds without cleaning and running good so far. Though I can't pick it up now without getting carbon all over me. Running suppressed pushes EWL and carbon out of every orifice!

I've got another ACR project I'm going to start here soon. Going to direct mount a mini-scout to my second ACR all the way forward directly to the upper. Now it's on a gear sector mount, and less than ideal. Post pictures when I'm done. Sorry for derailing the sling thread.

 

[SDDuc996]

Dude I love it. If it doesn't work, fab something that does. Awesome work.

As for two points vs. single point, I've found that two points are great and allow you to stow your gun behind you when you need your hands WHEN YOU'RE NOT WEARING KIT. When my kit is on, it seems to snag on everything. Then it becomes a PITA trying to reach the adjustments and if I do move the adjustment piece to where I can get to it easier, I run out of slack.

With a single point, though you lose the ability to sling your rifle behind you (unless wearing a catch or length of bungie and hook) it's way easier. Transitions are a snap, and you can even opt not to have the sling stuck on the rifle. Just an HK hook with a fastex on the gun, and the sling itself actually running through the shoulder straps of your kit.

Keep in mind (I just saw two reg Army dudes like this yesterday) if you're running a single point and are right handed, your left arm and head goes through the sling. If you sling it over your right arm the rifle will swing down to the right during a transition and obstruct access to your secondary.

 

[DSM]

I like that barrel work. When Adco did my barrel it cut almost a 1/4 pound off but I was thinking it could have been more if I had the gas block support profiled down as well. That's a lot of metal with no real purpose. It handles much better now.

It would be a haven for carbon but the original Masada bolt rails were skeletonized. I bet that would shave a few more ounces as well? Thinking out loud...

 

[goteron]

The gas block journal can be fluted, but it doesnt save that much weight, and I really dont have the machine for that kind of work.

Look for the new BFG sling they showed at shot, that is what I really want!

 

[DSM]

I would have just turned it down as you did. It doesn't equal pounds off the rifle but ounces add up together to make a difference. I'm still baffled by the M4 profile barrels.