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Diminished values on recalled ACR's..........
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Always!!
You want something different, The ACR wasn't what you thought it was, Just doesn't feel right to me, I didn't like it, etc etc.........
Just like cars, soon as you drive it off the lot, the sticker value is 25% less, (if not more) I bet dollar to donuts that the dealer will have it on his wall for a premium price stating never fired, recall taken care of.
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Start a thread over in general socializing; ref FL ranges. Bet there are couple bay area shooters here.
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It is an excuse to leverage a better deal. ACR's are expensive so people will look for discounts where they can.
At the same time, gun sellers tend to have a delusional notion of what used guns are worth, even if unfired. In this market, depreciation is significant.
At the same time, gun sellers tend to have a delusional notion of what used guns are worth, even if unfired. In this market, depreciation is significant.
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I have encountered a lot of dealers in the firearms market who act like the customers are the bad guy. There is always somebody out there who wants to try to cheat you.
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My father-in-law has a best friend who owns a dealership in St. Luis, MO and the only way to make any real money is to sell high volumes of weapons. Those who cheat you are those who do not sell many because their prices are too high. If a dealer is selling it for more than $40 - $60 over cost, then you are being raped. Many years ago when I was in the .mil I worked a part-time job at a gun shop and they too only charged on average $50 over cost on new stock. Otherwise, they could not sell anything.
Also, many dealers out there have no real knowledge. I asked one guy at a show for a 16" barrel and he brought me a 14.5". I looked at it and I could tell it was not 16". He insisted it was and we measured it. He didn't even know how to measure it properly. I schooled him in front of other customers and he lost business. If you are a dealer and you do not know your stuff, get the hell out of the business. This guy could have easily caused someone to become a criminal if the customer did not know any better and thought they bought a 16". On that note, you as the customer are ultimately responsible for educating yourself.
IF you are not 1000% sure about it, do not buy it without researching first. In today's society with the advent of the Internet, there is no excuse in my opinion.
Also, many dealers out there have no real knowledge. I asked one guy at a show for a 16" barrel and he brought me a 14.5". I looked at it and I could tell it was not 16". He insisted it was and we measured it. He didn't even know how to measure it properly. I schooled him in front of other customers and he lost business. If you are a dealer and you do not know your stuff, get the hell out of the business. This guy could have easily caused someone to become a criminal if the customer did not know any better and thought they bought a 16". On that note, you as the customer are ultimately responsible for educating yourself.
IF you are not 1000% sure about it, do not buy it without researching first. In today's society with the advent of the Internet, there is no excuse in my opinion.
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I plan to keep mine. I like it a lot and I enjoy shooting it.
My opinion, they hate it because it is not the end all of all firearm development: They feel the AR15 platform is.
They are angry because of the price point - justified because of the pre-release hype but not realistic.
They use Bushmaster as an excuse, did you know that Bushmaster has military contracts like many other loved manufacturers?
They hate it because they have to have something to hate, they hated the SCAR too because it was not an AR15. They are so shallow.
There are things reasonable people may not like - it is, well, reasonable that not every one will prefer this system.
But the AR crowd that can find nothing to compliment the ACR about are members of the flat Earth Society, plain and truthfully they will die with their cold dead fingers wrapped around an AR15.
I have eight AR platform rifles left in my accumulation. I like them but they are not the end all in firearm development, just look at them!
Just my opinion...peace to all and Merry Christmas!
They are angry because of the price point - justified because of the pre-release hype but not realistic.
They use Bushmaster as an excuse, did you know that Bushmaster has military contracts like many other loved manufacturers?
They hate it because they have to have something to hate, they hated the SCAR too because it was not an AR15. They are so shallow.
There are things reasonable people may not like - it is, well, reasonable that not every one will prefer this system.
But the AR crowd that can find nothing to compliment the ACR about are members of the flat Earth Society, plain and truthfully they will die with their cold dead fingers wrapped around an AR15.
I have eight AR platform rifles left in my accumulation. I like them but they are not the end all in firearm development, just look at them!
Just my opinion...peace to all and Merry Christmas!
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