[amstel78]

I recently picked up an Olympic Arms K3B-M4-A3-TC despite everyone hating the brand and telling me to go buy an RRA, Colt, Noveske, etc. Since I was treating myself for successfully escaping NYC, I also decided to buy an ACR. Today was range day, and the following is a report on the two weapons.


I used standard Army M2/A4 25yd zeroing targets.


First up was the Oly. I think after today, I'm a true Olympic Arms believer. Have a look at this following picture. This was shot with PMC 55gr after a quick boresight. Obviously needs a minor tweak, but get a load of the grouping! That is 3 rounds in the upper left quadrant.

Now this is after adjusting front sight 1 click and windage 1 click. Couple of flyers, but that's my fault for poor breathing control. Have a look at the center though; that's another 3 rounds!

My Oly is superb. There's no other way to describe it. I previously thought my FSB was canted, but was wrong about that as you can obviously see; my eyes must have been playing tricks on me. Rear windage only required 1 click right and I was dead center after adjusting elevation on FSB. All in all, the Oly ate PMC, American Eagle, and Hornady 55gr .223 ammo today with absolutely no failure to feed, fire, or eject. She runs like a champ and I'm very pleased with my purchase.


Next up was the ACR using Magpul BUIS. Again, grouping not as tight due to poor breath control, but at least I'm on target

This is after adjusting sights a bit more. Again a couple of flyers, but check out the grouping in center quadrant.

The ACR is a nice rifle, although will take a bit of getting used too. The muzzle comp is LOUD on the ACR. Much louder than the A2 birdcage on the Oly. It's also not much heavier than my M4. Don't know what all the fuss is about when it comes to the ACR's weight. It's a nicely designed and assembled weapon, but I'm still not sure it was worth the $2k I paid for it given the performance of the Olympic K3B-M4-A3-TC. BTW, my Oly has no receiver wobble, but the ACR has a little. There's a tiny amount of lateral play between the lower and upper receiver. Is this typical?


Here is a pic of the rifles used today. Unfortunately I forgot to bring my camera to the range, so this photo is post-cleaning.

And a gratuitous, updated picture of "the wall." My collection is now complete... maybe.

 

[cjt50]

Hmmm, Im just guessing you like .30 cal......2 FAL's, 2 G3 type and 2 AK's.

Thanks for sharing your range report, sounds like it was a fun day!

 

[amstel78]

Hmmm, Im just guessing you like .30 cal......2 FAL's, 2 G3 type and 2 AK's.

Thanks for sharing your range report, sounds like it was a fun day!

Thanks. I like to be "well rounded" in terms of selection.

I see you're from Tampa Bay. I grew up in Safety Harbor. My parents still live there. What part of TB are you from?

 

[oif0709]

Looks like the trigger on the acr is a bit heavier than the ar. Nice groups. I like the pmc bronze. . I've got a dpms and the aren't the most favored brand but I ate slept and carried an m4 and m16 for a wild. The parts quality are quite similar. I got it for the bull barrel and it was under $1000. I could of gotten a big end ar but its not what I wanted. You have a nice collection.hope you have a safe. I have a patriot leo safe. Its awsome.

 

[amstel78]

Looks like the trigger on the acr is a bit heavier than the ar. Nice groups. I like the pmc bronze. . I've got a dpms and the aren't the most favored brand but I ate slept and carried an m4 and m16 for a wild. The parts quality are quite similar. I got it for the bull barrel and it was under $1000. I could of gotten a big end ar but its not what I wanted. You have a nice collection.hope you have a safe. I have a patriot leo safe. Its awsome.

Safe is on the way. In the interim, I have them in a locked room in the basement and I'm the only one with the key. My wife knows where the spare is, but she's not crazy about guns to begin with.

As for trigger weight, yes it is a tad bit heavier. I'd estimate the break on the M4 to be about 5, maybe 6 pounds, and the ACR closer to 7. It took a few rounds after the M4 to get used to the pull of the ACR. Once I did, it was comfortable with no surprises.

 

[cjt50]

Thanks. I like to be "well rounded" in terms of selection.

I see you're from Tampa Bay. I grew up in Safety Harbor. My parents still live there. What part of TB are you from?

Right next door, Clearwater

 

[oif0709]

I envy you. You have a nice collection. I had to sell three guns and my eotech 557 fts setup for my acr. But im happy I did. Kept my rare ibm 30 carbine. You have dehumidifier? Or dessicant bags? Put a golden rod in your safe with remingtons drier or any drying bag. That older stuff got some rust on mine quite easily. Post up more target pics next range visit?.

 

[amstel78]

I envy you. You have a nice collection. I had to sell three guns and my eotech 557 fts setup for my acr. But im happy I did. Kept my rare ibm 30 carbine. You have dehumidifier? Or dessicant bags? Put a golden rod in your safe with remingtons drier or any drying bag. That older stuff got some rust on mine quite easily. Post up more target pics next range visit?.

Thanks for the reply. Don't be envious. I hardly sell a gun I buy. I just wait until I have the cash to buy something new. In my case, I waited almost 10 years to buy something new, which was the AR and the ACR. I saved my pennies, and eventually had the money to buy both new outright.

As for the room in the basement, yes I do have a dehumidifier running 24/7 set to 50% RH. Prior to that, I started getting surface rust on a few rifles. As soon as I saw that, I drove straight to Costco and picked up one of their DeLonghi 50 pint dehumidifiers at a good price. Now I keep RH to about 45-50%, and no rust issues to date. I'll still keep the dehumidifier going once I get the safe, but I'll probably throw a few reusable dessicant tins into the safe for good measure.

 

[oif0709]

Yeah I only got rid of what was replaceable. The acr couldn't get passed up. I kept all the valuable stuff. Need to get optics again. Plus reloading stuff.

 

[amstel78]

Has anyone here zeroed their Magpul BUIS that came with the rifle? I had to push windage over 4 clicks right from center to get zero at 25 yards. Seems excessive to me.

 

[bigdog2003_99]

Nicely done and nice collection! The trigger on my ACR is heavier than my AR as well but I do like the reset on the ACR trigger and am getting used to it. Midway USA has a Geiselle trigger for the ACR on their website listed as coming soon ........

dont forget that the super acr trigger doesnt come with the "box" that the trigger sits in, you can save some money and use a lighter ar15 trigger

 

[oif0709]

Has anyone here zeroed their Magpul BUIS that came with the rifle? I had to push windage over 4 clicks right from center to get zero at 25 yards. Seems excessive to me.

that's not too bad. I've had to go more in the past. I shoot lefty so I usually have to move the sight past what the eighty had it set on. You moved it about an inch at a hundred yards so its not too bad for an adjustment. These do t seem like the most accurate ones anyway. They are only back up sights. Not anything fancy. But they look like they work well for you. Nice shooting. You had to crank your front sight post right down? I have two sets and they had to be turned down. I wont try them wihout a bore sight I have an suburban range with walls you have to shoot under so its not a good idea to shoot uless you know where its going to hit

 

[amstel78]

that's not too bad. I've had to go more in the past. I shoot lefty so I usually have to move the sight past what the eighty had it set on. You moved it about an inch at a hundred yards so its not too bad for an adjustment. These do t seem like the most accurate ones anyway. They are only back up sights. Not anything fancy. But they look like they work well for you. Nice shooting. You had to crank your front sight post right down? I have two sets and they had to be turned down. I wont try them wihout a bore sight I have an suburban range with walls you have to shoot under so its not a good idea to shoot uless you know where its going to hit

It may be more than 4 clicks as the peep hole post is pretty off-centered now. That's why I started to wonder if there was something fishy with my barrel. On closer look though, it may just be the sights themselves. They don't look like they were molded properly. I'm going to replace them with Troy Micro's and re-zero at the range.

As for front sight post, yes I had to turn it down significantly. I laughed when I read the instructions stating that the front post is mechanically zeroed and should be close. I wasn't even hitting paper with it the way it came from the factory!

 

[oif0709]

Haha I didn't even read them I was like there is no way that's close. My rear aperature is off a little. I thought they were neat and got them in tan. Kind of sucks to spend money on them but at the time I was using them as a backup to an eotech. Now all I have are rifle scopes. I've got to look into these troy micros everyone talks about. I kind of like those diamod ones.

 

[Tackleberry23]

Nice collection. A little repetitious for my taste. Not knocking it, but I think that if it had the money I'd be looking for something a little different each time. I'm more of a one gun for each purpose guy, but I wish I had thy many guns lining my safe.

Excellent grouping with your ACR by the way. I've also found mine quite accurate, although I am considering swapping out to Troy irons.

 

[amstel78]

Nice collection. A little repetitious for my taste. Not knocking it, but I think that if it had the money I'd be looking for something a little different each time. I'm more of a one gun for each purpose guy, but I wish I had thy many guns lining my safe.

Excellent grouping with your ACR by the way. I've also found mine quite accurate, although I am considering swapping out to Troy irons.

Thanks for the reply. I know what you mean about repetitious. I'm thinking about thinning out the herd a little bit. One thing though, while most use the same caliber, they're all a bit different. The two FALs are really an STG-58 which I built on an Entreprise Arms metric receiver and a surplus parts kit. The other is an Austalian L1A1 on a Century receiver with new US barrel. The three wood-stocked rifles on the left are a Turk Mauser, the other is a Czech VZ-24, and the last is a Russian Mosin-Nagant. Both AK's are Romanian, and the two G3s are both Century. One has the huge skate-board tape aluminum receiver, and the other is a CETME Sporter.

 

[vSharp]

nice collection. and thanks for sharing. when I lived in Washington state for a few years I had a Oly Arms store right around the corner from my house... I used to go in there all the time to look at their stuff. a lot of folks told me to stay away
them but I had one friend who was satisfied with his Oly Arms he owned so I decided to get something. I ended up getting the K16 with an m4 style collapsible buttstock. decent price, about 550 out the box with a bull barrel on it. from the first to last round I put thru it... it was always smooth a damn accurate. I loved that little rifle. also considering it was the first one I ever bought .... it held up well so I'm not sure where a lot of the trash talking about Oly arms comes from... probably the same bunch that's constantly bashing the ACR. anyways, thanks for sharing. those were some sweet shot groups.

 

[Tackleberry23]

Amstel78, okay. I retract my earlier comment. If you built those rifles from parts, then they're your ladies. I'm sure that each build got better each time. I've never had the time to get into that kind of work, but I'd love to build an M4 like that.