[kjsl105]

AAc Blackout VS Brakeout (Misplelled 2x )

For those of you with insight on either of these two products Chime in on which you prefer and why.
(Mating 5.56 ACR with 7.62SDN6)

Range Reports/ Photos/ Videos are always a Plus!

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[kjsl105]

Everywhere I've read the Brakeout is superb in recoil reduction but is much louder and displays a distinct flash signature through the ports.
So would the can get rid of all the flash it overtime? Would the exiting force from the sides cause more wear and tear on the can?

 

[cjt50]

I picked the Blackout

I have never been a big fan of muzzle brakes on a .223 / 5.56 because they are obnoxiously loud. Besides the 223 has minimal recoil to begin with. Now on the bigger stuff, (50bmg, 300 win mag, etc... ) thats where muzzle breaks shine.

JMHO

 

[Tommys229]

does the stock FH accept a can?

 

[kjsl105]

I picked the Blackout

I have never been a big fan of muzzle brakes on a .223 / 5.56 because they are obnoxiously loud. Besides the 223 has minimal recoil to begin with. Now on the bigger stuff, (50bmg, 300 win mag, etc... ) thats where muzzle breaks shine.

JMHO

Good feedback, Thanks!

does the stock FH accept a can?

Hey Tommy,

No the factory Blackout won't accept anything. The Flash Hiders that do will have the additional threading around it.

 

[Tommys229]

but the aac black out will accept a can, right?

 

[bigdog2003_99]

the blackout is what i run on my 16" barrel acr, its very effective on flash reduction but the little recoil is still there, i've never shot the brake out so i cant comment on that, but with the brake it actually increases the life of the suppressor on sbr rifles (and probably 16+ also too)

what happens is the blast usually takes out the first baffle on the suppressor eroding it every shot (sbr), the blast chambers on the brake act as a sacrificial baffle and take most of the beating on it increasing the life. my m4-2k at 600 rounds with a 10.4" hk416 upper/aac blackout flash hider started eroding pretty decently, after that i swapped to the brake on my 10" rifles and you can see the erosion on the brake instead of the baffle

also, theres 3 versions of the blackout flash hider, the standard flash hider (non mounts), the 18t mount for the m4-1000, and 51t mount for the m4-2000

 

[cjt50]

the blackout is what i run on my 16" barrel acr, its very effective on flash reduction but the little recoil is still there, i've never shot the brake out so i cant comment on that, but with the brake it actually increases the life of the suppressor on sbr rifles (and probably 16+ also too)

what happens is the blast usually takes out the first baffle on the suppressor eroding it every shot (sbr), the blast chambers on the brake act as a sacrificial baffle and take most of the beating on it increasing the life. my m4-2k at 600 rounds with a 10.4" hk416 upper/aac blackout flash hider started eroding pretty decently, after that i swapped to the brake on my 10" rifles and you can see the erosion on the brake instead of the baffle

also, theres 3 versions of the blackout flash hider, the standard flash hider (non mounts), the 18t mount for the m4-1000, and 51t mount for the m4-2000

Ahhhhhhhh, makes sense replacing a $75 (give or take) muzzle break instead of a $600+ suppressor. Never looked at it that way.

I'm slipping that one into my pocket, (knowledge gained) Thanks!!

 

[kjsl105]

Just found a great thread on the subject:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=20&t=327949

 

[bigdog2003_99]

thats the one i was trying to remember lol

very good info there!

 

[DSM]

I had a Brakeout when they first came out and shot it enough to come to the conclusion that a combination muzzle brake and flash hider will be nothing but trade-offs. I didn't think it did either task very well.

But, if you're going to shoot mostly suppressed the Brakeout would be best for the reasons bigdog mentioned. Otherwise, go with the Blackout is my $.02 to the question.

 

[kjsl105]

Yeah I concluded that for my 12.5" I'll be running the Brakeout beacuse of the additional muzzle flip but mainly to help prolong the life of my suppressor.

Otherwise the Blackout will definetly work.

Too bad the Brakeout didn't perform as well as a flash hider, could have been the 2-1 solution. Great Comp/Mount though...

 

[cjt50]

I just reviewed that thread and the pictures tell the tale. If I was going to mount a surpressor I would go with the breakout. The amount of erosion after 3000 rounds is amazing. If nothing else, it is definately saving wear on the baffles.

But for shooting without a can, I would still go with the blackout.

Good find.

 

[Tackleberry23]

I got rid of my Blackout after a few mags through it. Not because of any problem, I just wanted to get a brake. I put on an FSC556 from PWS. I love it. Although it is loud as hell.

 

[DarwinG31]

I went with the brakeout because I don't like the "ping" noise the blackout makes. I also wanted a mount that would let me use a 6.8 can on a 556 barrel using the same mounting system. I also like the idea of having an artifical baffle. I have yet to install it as I want to pin it and have an OAL of 16". I'm concerned that it will be obnoxiously loud..

 

[kjsl105]

All good feedback

I was also hoping that Jason would chime.

It seems that AAC is exceptionally busy. My FFL is having trouble getting ahold of them.

 

[e2d]

Hey everyone.. New to the thread and a new ACR owner.. I must say, i absolutely love the thing.. I came across this forum and I am more interested in reducing the recoil the ACR has.. Is a muzzle brake the answer? I really don't care if it's louder, I'm more about accuracy and little to no recoil will get me there... From what I'm reading the AAC Blackout is the best in helping to reduce recoil? Are there any other muzzle brakes out there that are compatible with the ACR barrell? How difficult is it to change? Thanks for any feedback..

 

[cjt50]

Hey everyone.. New to the thread and a new ACR owner.. I must say, i absolutely love the thing.. I came across this forum and I am more interested in reducing the recoil the ACR has.. Is a muzzle brake the answer? I really don't care if it's louder, I'm more about accuracy and little to no recoil will get me there... From what I'm reading the AAC Blackout is the best in helping to reduce recoil? Are there any other muzzle brakes out there that are compatible with the ACR barrell? How difficult is it to change? Thanks for any feedback..

Yes, a muzzle break is the answer you seek!! (sorry watching starwars while I'm typing this )

Any muzzle break made for an AR15 will fit the ACR, they have the same threads on the end of the barrel. I have a PWS FCS556 on the end of my SCAR and it is really effective reducing felt recoil and muzzle rise. I shoot alot on an indoor range and it is obnoxiously loud. There are alot of muzzle breaks out there, comes down to how much you want to spend, (yes I'll say it) and how good it looks.

 

[Tackleberry23]

+1 on the PWS FSC556. I have one on my ACR and I love it. I'm having my barrel cut and that pinned for a 16" OAL.

 

[Agent.PYLE]

I have a miculek comp. no muzzle rise, quick follow up shot, reduced felt recoil.