I like the idea of the knee pads. Going to put them in the pants. Real good for shooting, but also for everyday stuff like working around the yard or on the car.Nice. I have a 5.11 flex stryke pants and I love it but have not put it through any kind of hell, I just wear it for hikes and going to the range and it's very comfortable and lightweight. You can also add padding to the knee area if you like.