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    Recoil Magazine editor Jerry Tsai is a fucking idiot, so is HK.

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    Hey guys, this is Jerry Tsai, Editor of RECOIL. I think I need to jump in here and clarify what I wrote in the MP7A1 article. It looks like I may not have stated my point clearly enough in that line that is quoted up above. Let's be clea
    r, neither RECOIL nor I are taking the stance on what should or should not be made available on the commercial market although I can see how what was written can be confused as such.


    Because we don't want anything to be taken out of context, let's complete that quote and read the entire paragraph:


    "Like we mentioned before, the MP7A1 is unavailable to civilians and for good reason. We all know thatís technology no civvies should ever get to lay their hands on. This is a purpose-built weapon with no sporting applications to speak of. It is made to put down scumbags, and thatís it. Mike Cabrera of Heckler & Koch Law Enforcement Sales and veteran law enforcement officer with SWAT unit experience points out that this is a gun that you do not want in the wrong, slimy hands. It comes with semi-automatic and full-auto firing modes only. Its overall size places it between a handgun and submachine gun. Its assault rifle capabilities and small size make this a serious weapon that should not be taken lightly."


    Let' also review why this gun should not be taken lightly. In the article it was stated that the MP7A1 is a slightly larger than handgun sized machine-gun that can be accurately fired and penetrate Soviet style body armor at more than 300 yards. In the wrong hands, that's a bad day for the good guys.


    As readers of RECOIL, we all agree that we love bad-ass hardware, there's no question about that. I believe that in a perfect world, all of us should have access to every kind of gadget that we desire. Believe me, being a civvie myself, I'd love to be able to get my hands on an MP7A1 of my own regardless of its stated purpose, but unfortunately the reality is that it isn't available to us. As a fellow enthusiast, I know how frustrating it is to want something only to be denied it.


    Its manufacturer has not made the gun available to the general public and when we asked if it would ever come to the commercial market, they replied that it is strictly a military and law enforcement weapon, adding that there are no sporting applications for it. Is it wrong that HK decided against selling a full-auto pocket sized machine gun that can penetrate armor from hundreds of yards away? It's their decision to make and their decision they have to live with not mine nor anybody else's.


    I accepted their answer for what it was out of respect for those serving in uniform. I believe that we as gun enthusiasts should respect our brothers in law enforcement, agency work and the military and also keep them out of harms way. Like HK, I wouldn't want to see one of these slip into the wrong hands either. Whether or not you agree with this is fine. I am compelled to explain a point that I was trying to make that may have not been clear.


    Thanks for reading,
    - JT, Editor, RECOIL
    Sporting purposes? The 2nd amendment isn't about sporting or hunting.

    They can't even pretend he was taken out of context, no true pro-gun person should ever even have the word sporting purposes in their vocabulary.

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    so my question is how is the p90 much different? it is made to do a very similar type of thing... that crap is ridiculous

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    yeah, in fairness though, what do you expect from a gun magazine made and run by a bunch of California Car people?
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    This is exactly how liberals think. I personally think this magazine will not make it. They just started, and have been getting pretty popular, but with something like this blowing up in the media, I doubt they can recover. But maybe they will surprise me.

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    From what I understand Silencerco has pulled their ads from the mag. If others follow suit, Recoil mag will be no more.

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    Never read the rag and, after reading that load of BS, I never will.

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    I had the last two mags. Almost had my wife buy and send me the latest. They can suck a dick now.

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    Their only hope is to fire the editor and most of the staff and hire real gun guys. Shit, ill go write for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommys229 View Post
    Their only hope is to fire the editor and most of the staff and hire real gun guys. Shit, ill go write for them

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    I think they are dead or they literally have no idea whats going on right this second because I can't imagine any magazine owner waiting this long to fire the editor unless the editor is more more than just the editor.

    Amazon they have 27 1 star ratings based on this on statement. Google play has tons based on this statement. The advertisers will be clawing to be the most vehemently opposed to this statement.

    Also if you have Stickman liked on Facebook, undo it he's deleting comments from people asking if he will still support them, and on M4C is essentially coming with excuses for him.
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    From their website..."Article by Jerry TsaiIíd like to address the comments regarding what I wrote in the MP7A1 article in RECOIL issue 4.* First and foremost, Iíd like to apologize for any offense that I have caused with the article. With the benefit of hindsight, I now understand the outrage, and I am greatly saddened that it was initiated by my words.* Especially since, I am an unwavering supporter of 2nd Amendment Rights.* Iíve chosen to spend a significant part of both my personnel and professional life immersed in this enthusiasm, so to have my support of individualsí rights called into doubt is extremely unfortunate. With that said, I retract what I wrote in the offending paragraph within this article. It should have had been presented with more clarity.In the article, I stated some information that was passed on to me about why the gun is not available for civilian purchase. By no means did I intend to imply that civilians are not responsible, nor do we lack the judgment to own such weapons, if I believed anything approaching this, clearly I would lead a much different life. I also mentioned in the article that the gun had no sporting purpose. This again, was information passed on to me and reported in the article without the necessary additional context. I believe everything published in RECOIL up to this point (other than this story), demonstrates we clearly understand and completely agree that guns do not need to have a sporting purpose in order for them to be rightfully available to civilians. In retrospect, I should have presented this information in a clearer manner. Although I can understand the manufacturerís stance on the subject, it doesnít mean that I agree with it.Again, I acknowledge the mistakes I made and for them I am truly sorry.Sincerely,Jerry TsaiEditorRECOIL"


 
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